Well, i tried it. But I failed.

Well, i tried it. But I failed.


Well, i tried it. But I failed.

9 months ago
  1. You’ve attempted to read the Silmarillion once, yes. But what about your second attempt to read the Silmarillion?

  2. People should really read Children of Húrin first. It could be a little confusing without the context of the world being different and all the different kingdoms, but it works really well as its own story and the writing style feels half way between LOTR and the Silmarillion, meaning that people will probably be more prepared for Silma when they get to it.

  3. Listen to the audiobook version. Its fantastic. Originally watched it while playing grand strat games. Now I listen to it before sleep because its calming like asmr but without the sexual undertones.

  4. Yep. Felt like an idiot reading it. Nothing made sense, the journeys were confusing because I didn’t know middle Earth looked different. I didn’t recognize any names except Galadrial.

    I’ve been thinking of giving it another go though. I read the stand alone release of fall of Gondolin which is basically the same story but told I think six different ways. And having done research about the first and second age I think I’ll be able to understand it much better

  5. Don’t worry first time’s always hard.i failed miserably the first time i’ve tried to read it but recently i read it again for the third Time like it was Harry Potter

  6. I remember being 12 and after watching the Hobbit i saw the silmarillion for sale with the dragon climbing the walls spitting fire and i tought it looked good

    I gave up after 5 pages

  7. The Silmarillion is a hot mess and yet it is more rich than all of the trilogy plus the Hobbit combined if you take the time to understand it. It takes endurance to navigate it and appreciate it. Only the faithful will succeed.

  8. Yeah…I read it to know more about Middle-earth since I’m a huge Tolkien fan but the literary style was not my cup of tea.

  9. Among the tales of sorrow and of ruin that came down to us from the darkness of those days there are yet some in which amid weeping there is joy and under the shadow of death light that endures. And of these histories most fair still in the ears of the Elves is the tale of Beren and Lúthien

  10. The Silm is the best-kept secret in the fandom, because it’s not actually a difficult read, but people get intimidated and expect it to be dense and confusing and they give up because it’s not what they wanted it to be.

    Don’t go in expecting a traditional novel. Don’t go in expecting the same experience as the trilogy or even the Hobbit. Instead, go in expecting something closer to Beowulf or the Bible, and you won’t be disappointed. I think it’s actually clearer and easier than the trilogy, since instead of spending 3 pages on a tree it blows through 100 years in one paragraph.

    Also, no matter what anyone says, you should NOT skip the Ainulindalë.

  11. I couldnt get into it or follow it either and I read engineering books for fun

  12. I felt so stupid picking this book up in the third grade. Took me years to ever attempt to pick it up again lol.

  13. I don’t know if it will work, but I am trying to read it for the third time and this time I am making notes.

  14. I think the denseness lends it a certain unique realism. Like it actually feels as if I were reading an ancient text like the bible

  15. Too much characters and places, was very hard to read, and tbh i forgot 3/4 of the story except the important parts, i should read it again tbh.

  16. What I’ve found invaluable is the [Feather Summarizes the Silmarillion](https://www.patreon.com/posts/feather-index-27107983) podcast! It’s published for free on patreon (you don’t have to have an account or give any money) and just last week it finally reached the end of the Quenta Silmarillion, though of course there are more episodes to come. Feather is a librarian in Canada who just really likes Tolkien.

    It’s less a *summary* of the Silm — it’s a loooot longer than the audiobook is — and more an *unpacking*, perhaps a retelling or examining. It explains events and characters and lore in a really clear way that helped me understand what’s important and how it fits together, which also meant I actually felt emotional about the story for the first time??? It looks at the work almost entirely as a historical document (rather than resorting to “well in this bit Tolkien just didn’t think something through”) and discusses biases and inaccuracies and compares it to real-world study of history, and also brings up psychology and trauma a lot. Also there’s a good deal of swearing. 10/10 would recommend.

  17. **In Middle School:** This is like Old Testament stuff. I should wait until I’m older.

    **In High School:** The what is the what of the who? When was that last mentioned? Ah well, I get the broad strokes . . . kinda.

    **In College:** Let’s see — I’ve already completed everything else I brought to pass the time on this huge road trip. Maybe this time I can take it all in.

  18. But on a much more serious note, I *promise* you guys it gets easier with each re-read. You finally get to a point where the names/family trees/geography come easily and you finally get to enjoy the book for what it is: pure brilliance. It’s now my favorite book of all-time, and I read it annually.

  19. I read it and for the most part really enjoyed it.

    I read it my first year of college waiting for the first LotR movie to come out.

  20. I’m re-reading along with the Atlas of Middle-Earth right now and it really adds to the experience!

  21. After the first few pages, I had less of an idea what the hell was going on than before starting the book.

  22. Okay, if I had gold and I could give it to anyone on reddit, I’d give it you. This actually made me smile and laugh haha

  23. For all the names and places and everything, there is only a few non-valar characters that truly matters to the core story: Elves: Feanor (guy who made silmarills), Fingolfin (his brother, and king of the noldor), Feanors sons primarely Maedhros who tried to take the silmarills back, Turgon king of Gondolin and Thingel king of Doriath. Men: Hurin, Turin, Beren&Luthien and Eärendil who each gets their own story.

    Generally when you get to the part after Feanor dies most of the world building is done and the rest is pretty straightforward.

  24. Oh, c’mon now. It’s not as bad as all that. The appendices at the end of The Return of the King are much worse, and you can get through those if you just give it a go.

  25. Around page 32 (52?) they start tossing in elvish names that you’ll recognize.

    The narrative gets a lot easier to follow once the elves show up. Everything before that is a slog.

    I think it took my 3-4 honest tries before I managed to get to the ‘interesting’ part.

    And once I got to that part, the book was much easier to read.

    But man, that first few dozen pages is rough.

  26. Ey, it’s pretty straightforward, there are maps in some versions. Loved reading it in high school… xD

  27. You should get credit for trying. I’ve reread so many Tolkien books so many times but the Silmarillion took me a few tries. Started it like 3 times before I managed to finish it. It’s long and intense and rather biblical – bit off putting to me i suppose. It’s interesting to know about the creation of middle earth but don’t feel to bad for not managing to finish.

  28. I read it and never fully finished and want to reread from the being because I forgot half the stuff already. I also a bunch if lore videos of the lotr and everything and at times it was still confusing. So yes it counts for trying.

  29. How does the Sil compare to other “difficult” literature? I finished the Dune series in January and there were points that I felt pretty lost in that.

  30. Kind of the same thing for me. It’s not as intense, but I’ve been struggling to read Lord of the Rings. The Hobbit is on the my favorite books and I love the LOTR Movies, but the pacing and constant chunks of exposition in the book is really turning me off. I’m definitely still determined to finish it though.

  31. Hardest book I’ve read in my life. Took me almost a year.

  32. Men of the West YouTube channel is fucking awesome and breaks down a lot of LOTR/Silma lore in easy to understand but super in depth videos that are a good entry into the deep lore

  33. I spent 95 days hiking one time. I brought the Silmarillion. It was a good choice. It only took about 5 times reading it to understand 10%.

  34. Lol I tried reading the children of húrin but my brain fucking died

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